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We should be getting a beefed up version of the Woomf in 4/5 weeks
Hi Alpkit
Please could you tell me when the woomf mats are back?
Two new colours have been introduced into the range. Woomf is now available in Tomato, Tarmac, Deepwater, Rocket and Jaffa.
Hi Alpkit!
Just found your (intriguing!) corner of the web, and very interested in the Woomf. I’ve got a couple of questions :
- When will the 1.2 be available for purchase?
- Will it be on a similar deal (£50 on the expectation of feedback)?
Thanks!
ed
Woomf Update
Thanks to all those people who purchased a development sample of the woomf. It is pleasing to see we got most things right from the off. Following all the comments here is what we are doing with them.
Strap Length
We have increased the velcro closure straps by 100mm to make the mat easier to close and not compress the foam around the straps when closed.
We have also rotated the straps/d-rings 180º to allow for future develop of Matt from Readings idea.
Strap Velcro
We had a number of suggestions, from climbers who saw the woomf’s at shows & comps, to add a square of velcro to the mat & strap to stop it sliding when picking it up. It seems this isn’t needed.
Foam Movement
A couple of people mentioned the top foam creeps. Having used Woomf I know what you mean but I don’t think anything can be done to prevent this. We have an idea up our sleeve but do not want to make it public yet. Other burrito style mats solve it by making the upper foam smaller. It doesn’t cure the problem, just makes it less noticeable because it doesn’t push up against the fabric when it moves.
The foam slowing trying to close the mat when first opened was also mentioned. The mat soon lies flat after a couple of landings or bounces, but I am currently making a sample with a couple of velcro patches in the hinge to see if this stops the problem. This will take a few weeks to test. We’ll report back on the findings as to whether the increased cost incurred by adding the patches improves the performance.
Cheers, Jim.
Thanks for the update - always nice to know that feedback is being taken into account
Re. the point on the sliding straps, my tuppence-worth would be that it’s easier for the end-user to add a couple of stitches with a needle and thread if it’s that big a deal, whereas if it’s sewn up at the factory, you’re unlikely to want to risk undoing it in case the whole lot falls apart! Not that I’m bothered, as I already have mine :D
I like the Ard Woomf pretty much as it is and feel the foam is fine as is. Harder foam means it will flatten less easily and from previous experience it actually degrades faster as it can’t bounce back the same(I use it on rocky terain mainly and it is just fine. Cost doesnt justify it either.
Agree the velcro could be a wee bit longer. Re the shoulder strap thing, try this, extend your existing straps to full length, pull them through towards one end and loop the velcro closure over it to keep it in line and hey presto a single shoulder carrying system. It works fine and dandy for me and costs nothing more and doesnt require modification. As to a fixed strap I’m not convinced it seems fine as is and the other mat I have with a fixed strap is actually less adjustable for clothing AND for getting on and off your back as a result. So in fact fixed strap-bollocks.
So actually, longer velcro would do it for me and even that is being picky
i think the sliding strap is ok, though when you grab it to move the mat a short distance without folding it up it slides through and so drags. this is my first mat so i dont have much to compare it with, when i was out the other day i tried a franklin mat of a similar size that was quite old and was far to soft.
the colour is good too.
Have now taken my new woomf out a couple of times and am dead happy with it. Well made and the foam density seems fine. The rucksack straps do the job well, although I’d echo that the velco straps could be a bit longer so you can sandwich bits in the pad. All in all, great matt - especially if you haven’t got a huge car!
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